ONBOARD DJI WAYPOINTS

Drone Pilot

I AM TRYING TO CREATE A MISSION AND UPLOADED TO THE MAVIC ZOOM FOR ONBOARD EXECUTION BUT WHEM I PRESS THE THREE DOOTS AND CONVERTION

I GET A MESSAGE THAT  SAYS  (This mission has no available conversions)

DISMISS
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  • Comment author
    Jim McAndrew Dronelink Staff

    You need to upgrade to Elite (compare plans here).

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  • Comment author
    Drone Pilot

    UPGRADED. ANOTHER QUESTION WHY WHEN COVERTING TO DJI IT ADDS A HOLE BUNCH OF WAY POINTS TO THE MISSION? 

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  • Comment author
    Jim McAndrew Dronelink Staff

    It is trying to match the original flight path as closely as it can, and DJI waypoints do not support bezier curves. You can see more details here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-W4HKJlmA

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  • Comment author
    Drone Pilot

    THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE. LAST QUESTION SO IF THE DRONE LOOSES SIGNAL  IT WILL CONTINUE THE FULL MISSION INCLUDING ALL CAMERA AND GIMBAL SETTINGS  SET IN MISSION?

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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    Camera commands, including gimbal angle, need a connection - they are not part of what DJI allows to be uploaded.  So, if you had a mission that followed a path and changed the gimbal angle, then the path would be followed (including the drone heading if facing an object) but the gimbal angle will not change if you have lost connectivity.  

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  • Comment author
    Mike (Arizona Wyldwest) Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    This one reason why even if I had a drone with onboard waypoints capability I’d still use Virtual Stick method. As Barry stated, you will lose a lot of the functions which Dronelink’s Virtual Stick method gives you. I’ve never had a disconnect or even loss of any signal bars with my MA2 or even the MM which does not have Ocusync. I Understand some pilots want onboard capability incase of a disconnect but I’d rather have complete control of my drone throughout the entire mission. If it disconnects it may complete the mission but you will have no control, lose of video feed and have no idea what’s ahead of it. Always possible that something like a power pole/ lines, trees, building etc., could be in It’s path and crash. Any drone with Ocusync should be able to stay connected if flying within VLOS. I don’t tell pilots how to fly but I’ve seen some complain and their flying 1 mile and even much farther away. Too each their own beliefs and thoughts. Just some thoughts of mine.

    Enjoy, Mike…..

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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    In general, I would agree with Mike.  Running virtual stick gives a lot of benefits, including many features that just can't be covered using onboard components.

    But, there are situations where this can be useful, and it's not just about carrying on beyond signal loss.  A couple off the top of my head:

    a.  In very "noisy" environments, or when far away, a short loss or degradation of the signal will not cause the mission will to abort unexpectedly.  

    b. In situations where very fine control is needed to give smooth results, there is a slight lag with virtual sticks that can be noticed in videos.  Using onboard components, there is no lag, and so the flight can sometimes be smoother.  

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  • Comment author
    Drone Pilot

    Thank you for the answers. Is there a way to create a mission on Google Earth and export it to dronelink,?

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  • Comment author
    Mike (Arizona Wyldwest) Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert
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    Hi Barry. Understood. I’ve never noticed anything like that but I do understand in Some cases it could be useful. I’d would like to see a comparison with an Orbit using Virtual Stick and Onboard. Curious if the complaints I’ve seen about the aircraft yawing back and forth a bit is better with the onboard. I understand the Commercial pilots would obviously want a smother Orbit. 


     

    Drone Pilot…. Here is a video which may help. 

    https://youtu.be/iEERdC2TcNo

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  • Comment author
    Drone Pilot

    Thank you Arizona

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  • Comment author
    Jim McAndrew Dronelink Staff

    We did quite a bit of work to optimize the Orbit (mode) on-the-fly function for smoothness (using Kalman filters, etc). If the component isn't getting great results, you should try the mode instead.

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  • Comment author
    Emmanuel Otchere

    I converted to a DJI Mavic 2 Pro Waypoints today and my observation was that the drone will go to each way point in steps, that is slow down at each way point and pickup again. Is this normal?

    I was expecting a smooth flight across the waypoints but rather not. Am I missing anything? 

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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    Emmanuel Otchere

    Can you share the mission?  That would help to determine what is going on.  I use this all the time and never have a problem with it slowing down more than expected to create a smooth turn.

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  • Comment author
    Emmanuel Otchere

    Barry Houldsworth

    here you go - https://app.dronelink.com/emmanuel-otchere/songshan-lake/plan/gwWPozaY9WYGjO0EMNF6/N3xaP20MLwJedi4oxgTx

     

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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    Emmanuel Otchere

    When you run a simulation you can see that this is going to happen by looking at the horizontal speed.  See pic below.

    Can you post the mission from BEFORE you converted it?

     

     

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  • Comment author
    Emmanuel Otchere

    Barry Houldsworth

    here you go.. https://app.dronelink.com/emmanuel-otchere/songshan-lake/plan/qVnzGM5JUivgdjS1mJ5E/xK77EmwaCrryE5s33vSd

    Is the problem resulting from conversion, or it's factoring in other parameters? 

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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    So, this is very odd.  When I run the conversion I don't get that issue with the speed changing.  Is this the mission that you converted or has it changed?

    Here is the plan after I converted

    https://app.dronelink.com/barry-houldsworth/testing-and-training/plan/mbpvYL2XMr1kZ2ycEbla/pYJh692ofxNMZiSzyP3Z

     

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  • Comment author
    Emmanuel Otchere

    this is the mission I converted using my iPhone.

    Scenario...

    1. Mission was first downloaded as an offiline mission (using the beta version, and in china connecting while online was too slow or inoperable so I first connected via VPN to offline the mission first)

    2. In the Offline version did the conversion to DJI waypoints 

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  • Comment author
    Martin Reading Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    Really strange, I've converted it several times and getting the same results as Barry Houldsworth

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  • Comment author
    Jim McAndrew Dronelink Staff

    You can't convert the offline version in the Dronelink native app because the converter is in the mission planner, which always requires a network connection.

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  • Comment author
    Emmanuel Otchere

    I guess I'll have to try again and report back. Hopefully, repeat the same conditions and see. 

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