Panorama 360 Spherical - Missing points - No Sky??

I've created a on-the-fly mission with two spherical pano 360's. My aim is to be able to take Pano 360 images from the exact same location.

 

After assembling the images, i was HIGHLY suprised to realize that a massive portion of the sky was missing. 

 

When you take default spherical images from DJI, you have an additional upward angle  - having this missing in this app is worrisome. Why doesn't the upward angle exist??

 

Even with DJI there is a SMALL piece of the upward sky missing for which you can easily fill in - but in this app the Gap is MASSIVE. Any thoughts on this?

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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    I believe the default 360 pano has an upward section of +6 deg.  It's sky so any decent photo app will do a content aware fill. 

    If you want more you can always create a component with exactly the angles you want and use that.

     

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  • Comment author
    Raphael Gay-De-Montella

    That seems like a lot of work for something you highly would expect from out of the box. Instead - why wouldnt Dronelink create one more tilt elevation point to capture the majority of the sky? 

    How would someone create the custom tilt and rotation to capture a correct spherical 360 pano?

    Additionally, why wouldn't dronelink create subfolders to place each pano image in so you can easily determine start and finish photo for post.

    I am starting to question my subscription and i've just gotten started. This is highly disappointing.

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  • Comment author
    Raphael Gay-De-Montella

    How would someone (without spending over an hour) program this in the tool - from a lack of the software doing it which you would expect it to:

     

     

    1. Start facing north, camera tilt 0 degrees, take photo.
    2. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 0 degrees, take photo.
    3. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 0 degrees, take photo.
    4. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 0 degrees, take photo.
    5. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 0 degrees, take photo.
    6. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 0 degrees, take photo.

    Next, adjust the tilt and repeat:

    1. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -30 degrees, take photo.
    2. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -30 degrees, take photo.
    3. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -30 degrees, take photo.
    4. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -30 degrees, take photo.
    5. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -30 degrees, take photo.
    6. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -30 degrees, take photo.

    And once more:

    1. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -60 degrees, take photo.
    2. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -60 degrees, take photo.
    3. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -60 degrees, take photo.
    4. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -60 degrees, take photo.
    5. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -60 degrees, take photo.
    6. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt -60 degrees, take photo.

    Now, adjust the tilt upwards:

    1. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 30 degrees, take photo.
    2. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 30 degrees, take photo.
    3. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 30 degrees, take photo.
    4. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 30 degrees, take photo.
    5. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 30 degrees, take photo.
    6. Rotate right 60 degrees, tilt 30 degrees, take photo.

    Now, capture the nadir and zenith:

    1. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt -75 degrees, take photo.
    2. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt -75 degrees, take photo.
    3. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt -75 degrees, take photo.
    4. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt -75 degrees, take photo.
    5. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt 75 degrees, take photo.
    6. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt 75 degrees, take photo.
    7. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt 75 degrees, take photo.
    8. Rotate right 90 degrees, tilt 75 degrees, take photo.
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  • Comment author
    Mike (Arizona Wyldwest) Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert
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    Also you can go and add from the DL public Repos the “360 photo” component and use it as a base plan and modify it the way you want. It is completely editable unlike the DL Pano component which has everything built into it and no way to adjust anything.

    There is a ton of shared public plans available. 

    https://support.dronelink.com/hc/en-us/articles/5163620531219-Discover-Existing-or-Create-Your-Own-Reusable-Mission-Components-Including-360s-Camera-Settings-and-More

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  • Comment author
    Raphael Gay-De-Montella

    To Mike - yes that seems worthwhile to explore, thank you.

    To Patrick - you’re missing a massive amount of sky. Your image is overexposed so a fill might blend well, but a fill on a well exposed set of photos will not blend well.

    I still think this is an absolute key feature (adding one more tilt elevation angle) Dronelink should just build in for the zenith.

    And I still think that when saving images to the dd card, they should create separate folders for each set of Panos…

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  • Comment author
    Mike (Arizona Wyldwest) Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    Raphael Gay-De-Montella 

    And I still think that when saving images to the dd card, they should create separate folders for each set of Panos…

    still think this is an absolute key feature (adding one more tilt elevation angle) Dronelink should just build in for the zenith.

    Not sure if those are even possible but you can always post in the Feature Request thread and see what DL says. Their support is amazing but there are so many features some pilots want that it’s impossible to add everything if even possible especially features which a very small amount of pilots request or use. DL has added so much over the last few years and they are always working on keeping current drones up and running with new features and busy constantly adding newer drones. Usually they add the very common features which the the mass majority of pilots use. Can’t hurt to post it and see what they say though. Enjoy…

     

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  • Comment author
    Jim McAndrew Dronelink Staff

    I still think this is an absolute key feature (adding one more tilt elevation angle) Dronelink should just build in for the zenith.

    The Pano component is currently designed for the least common denominator across all drones right now, all of which have different hardware limitations on how far the gimbal can rotate on the pitch access. We would like to eventually make the component smart enough to detect the drone model at flight time, but there are other issues associated with this approach which make it a difficult feature to implement, which is why we left the old approach available (designing a pano yourself from base level components, specific to your hardware capabilities).

    And I still think that when saving images to the dd card, they should create separate folders for each set of Panos…

    https://support.dronelink.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/4412619628307-app-development

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  • Comment author
    Tim B
     
    Raphael Gay-De-Montella
    ...I still think this is an absolute key feature (adding one more tilt elevation angle)
     
    While I can appreciate your frustration, at the same time any  "key feature" is obviously a subjective matter. I don't know the stats but I'd wager that the vast majority of DL users have no interest in creating panoramas.
     
    Having said that, I work a lot with panoramas myself and the more features DL has that support panos, the happier I will be. In the meantime, I find it pretty effective (as Barry Houldsworth mentione) to use Photoshop's content aware fill feature. 
     
     
     
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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    Most of the time I use this feature it is on construction sites as part of a data capture.  Most of those people are not interested in a pretty sky.  Everyone has different needs.

     

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  • Comment author
    Raphael Gay-De-Montella

    If quality is important to you (which I’m sure it is), having a massive black square over your construction site would not be acceptable.

    Also with regards to “key features” I’m referring to a key feature IN a 360.

    You know… this really points me to draw a conclusion. Thank you for everyone’s comments.

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  • Comment author
    Barry Houldsworth Dronelink Expert Dronelink Expert

    Raphael Gay-De-Montella

    It is obviously important to YOU.  

    For my clients the quality they are looking for is down on the ground, so the hole in the sky is not relevant.  But that's construction, not marketing. 

    If the standard 360 doesn't work for you, and the 360s that have been created by others and placed in public repositories doesn't work for you, and you are not interested in creating your own specific to your drone and your needs nor fixing the hole with content aware fill, then maybe this isn't the tool you're looking for at the moment. 

    I'm not personally aware of any software at the moment that will let you fly automated missions to place the drone in a location, capture the 360, and then fill the hole automatically.  But it might exist.  I hope you find what you are looking for.

    Best of luck!

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